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		<description><![CDATA[And, just what did the GLBT expect?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong><a href="http://www.glaad.org/Page.aspx?pid=1056"><span style="color:#ff6600;">And</span></a><span style="color:#cc99ff;">,</span> <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/gay-marriage-vote-close-maine/"><span style="color:#ffffff;">just </span><span style="color:#0000ff;">what </span></a></strong><em><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/gay-marriage-vote-close-maine/"><span style="color:#ffff00;">did</span></a></em><strong><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/03/gay-marriage-vote-close-maine/"> <span style="color:#00ff00;">the </span><span style="color:#ff00ff;">GLBT </span><span style="color:#00ff00;">expect</span></a><span style="color:#cc99ff;">?</span></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have no stake in the gender debate.  
Though I will admire those who will continue their fight against the transgender, I for one have come to the conclusion that it is futile to try and convince a group of transvestites anything.  The transgender are fully wrapped up in intractable group think delusion.
 
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Though I will admire those who will continue their fight against the transgender, I for one have come to the conclusion that it is futile to try and convince a group of transvestites anything.  The transgender are fully wrapped up in intractable group think delusion.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender are constantly harping about the world not </strong><em>allowing</em><strong> them to be what they really are: women.  On the face, that is patently absurd.  No one is trying to stop the transgender from being what they “really are.”  Any man on the face of the earth is quite welcome to get up each morning, put on a dress, and proclaim they are a woman.  What the transgender are </strong><em>really</em><strong> saying is that the world will not </strong><em>recognize</em><strong> them as women.  And, of course they won’t…because what they </strong><em>really are</em><strong>…</strong><em>are men</em><strong>.  No </strong><em>female</em><strong> walks around with a cock in their panties.  No female </strong><em>wants</em><strong> to walk around with a cock in their panties; just the thought would drive a real female insane.  The transgender feel that walking around with a cock in their panties is incidental to being female.  To bad, the rest of the world feels differently and always will.  I’m in that “rest of the world”.  Why should I continue to try to convince a group of delusional fetish driven men that they are not what they say they are?  The truth is that it’s ridiculous to try.  Society has long wrapped their intellect around the concept of transsexuals who have an urgent need to change their body, and do, because they were born with the wrong anatomy.  But no one is </strong><em>ever</em><strong> going to buy into the concept of transgender men being women just because they </strong><em>say</em><strong> they are.  Just as it is meaningless for me to argue with this deranged group, it is just as fruitless for them to try to convince society they are really female.  Society doesn’t buy it.  Heck, even the vast majority of the GLB doesn’t buy it.  Homosexuals have no real sympathy for the transgender.  The transgender are just numbers in the GLB political agenda; that’s been illustrated more times than Carter has pills.  As soon as the GLB get their precious same-sex marriage and ENDA, the transgender will be without an island.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Often, the transgender refer to employment legislation and other discrimination to point out that society is changing.  They fail to admit that in spite of such laws their stature hasn’t changed.  They are </strong><em>still</em><strong> seen as men in dresses.  They </strong><em>still</em><strong> can’t get jobs.  And, they are </strong><em>still</em><strong> ridiculed when they are in public.  And that will </strong><em>still</em><strong> continue.  Hate crime legislation is going to do absolutely nothing to stop the assault on the transgender prostitute out on a lonely street in the early morning hours.  I predict that legislation will continue to be passed to protect the transgender.  What the transgender can not understand is legislation is in </strong><em>no way</em><strong> legitimization or acceptance, only a political </strong><em>accommodation</em><strong>.  Tolerance is </strong><em>not</em><strong> acceptance; and tolerance is the very best the transgender can ever hope for.  Mainstreaming will never happen for them; no one in society is ever going to </strong><em>recognize</em><strong> the transgender as female…never…</strong><em>ever</em><strong>.  It’s pure fantasy for the transgender to ever think otherwise.  It is nauseating to read there blogs and the self aggrandizement they heap on each other.  They talk to themselves and have absolutely succeeded in perpetuating the delusion that what they say is reality.  Nothing could be further from the truth.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The very vast majority of the transgender are homosexual.  With very, </strong><em>very</em><strong> few exceptions, heterosexual post op transsexuals want nothing to do with the GLBT.  They see the GLBT essentially the same as the rest of society, i.e., a group of sex driven queers.  No male-to-female non op transgender is </strong><em>ever</em><strong> going to have a straight relationship unless it is with a natal female in spite of what they often preach.  Homosexual transgender non ops in love with other homosexual transgender non-ops are not lesbians, they are homosexual men who dress badly as females.  Straight men are not attracted to cocks in panties.  Virtually all of the TG activists are homosexual, whether post op or non op.  Huge, huge numbers of the transgender are romantically involved with other transgender.  Often the justification for that is something along the lines of </strong><em>“…only another transgender could understand me.”</em><strong>  It’s very difficult to argue with that for society looks as a man in a dress, claiming to be in love with another man in a dress, and the both of them claiming to be lesbian as about as bat shit insane as it gets.  Why should I continue debating the transgender when I see their situation the same as the rest of society?</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>No, the transgender live in one huge day to day fetish driven fantasy world.  They think if they can circumvent the birth certificate laws and obtain a birth certificate with female on it then they </strong><em>are</em><strong> female…when all they are is a man with a fake and fraudulent piece of paper.  The Dysonnances and Sandeens and Helms and Roberts and Abernathys of the world can say all day long that they pass and are “never” clocked, but their pictures and videos say otherwise.  They simply can’t understand that passing as a female has little to do with beauty and everything to do with demeanor.  They shout privilege; they draw it like a sword.  They use it to slam those of us who do pass and have assimilated into the mainstream insinuating that if we didn’t spend all that money on FFS we’d pass no better than they do.  That is simply BS.  Women know women, and they also know what a man pretending to be a woman is: transgender.  The transgender can say until the cows come home that they are “just like” post op transsexuals who have successfully integrated into the mainstream when the truth is that they are anything but being “just like” those of us who have our GRS, get </strong><em>legitimate</em><strong> birth certificates, and then merge in with society.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender are at their best playing the victim card.  To hear them speak one would think pretty much everyone but the transgender themselves are perching in trees waiting to draw a bead on the next drag queen that surfaces.  The TG vocabulary often appears to be limited to just a few words that </strong><em>all</em><strong> of them use.  Anyone who doesn’t agree with their twisted views of sex and gender are self loathing, homophobic, transphobic, bigoted, discriminating haters.  It’s almost as though they can’t utter a sentence if it doesn’t contain an insult.  If they can’t get a job then they are being </strong><em>discriminated</em><strong> against.  If someone challenges their &#8220;men can become pregnant/women have cocks&#8221; insanity then the person is </strong><em>self loathing</em><strong>.  If one disagrees with same-sex marriage then they are </strong><em>homophobic</em><strong>.  If they are openly ridiculed in public for looking and behaving like cartoon characters then the public is </strong><em>transphobic</em><strong>.  All of the above are examples of </strong><em>bigotry</em><strong>, at least to the transgender.  The transgender and maladjusted post ops never seem to stop and think that they might not be looked at with skepticism because they are men in dresses, but because they are simply ridiculous in their presentation while at the same time offering up some of the most asinine philosophies imaginable to the mainstream.  Instead of having their gender issues being incidental to their lives, it is their lives and base personal being that is incidental to their gender issues.  Their whole entire life </strong><em>is</em><strong> being transgender…they radiate it.  Few have the intellect to understand that </strong><em>no one</em><strong> is going to be sympathetic to </strong><em>anyone</em><strong> who wears their issues as a badge of their identity.  It doesn’t matter what the issue is…being transgender is no different.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender are a group bent on changing perceptions and destroying the gender binary.  The trans activists say some really stupid things.  The other day I saw one of the transgender poster girls write this:  </strong><em>“I’m a woman, I’m also a transwomen…it doesn’t define me, it’s just who I am.”</em><strong>  Can you believe that?  Really, can you?  Here we have a person of whom if their name were Googled would get a million hits.  This person’s </strong><em>only</em><strong> claim to fame is being a transgender.  She is in dire love with another transgender.  Yet when she spouts the party line, she </strong><em>qualifies</em><strong> herself as something </strong><em>other than</em><strong> just female, something </strong><em>less than</em><strong> female, denying that is what </strong><em>entirely</em><strong> defines herself.  You won’t find the transgender, or even some of the more maladjusted post ops saying they are simply female.  They are always a </strong><em>transgender</em><strong> female…a </strong><em>trans</em><strong> woman.  And, they wonder, among other thing, why they are looked at as men in dresses by everyone but others like them.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The TeeGees just can’t seem to grasp that with few exceptions, the mainstream has certain ways that men and women act…certain interests are in common to the sexes.  These transgender females look like men, act like men, walk like men, eat like men, chat like men, behave like men, and curse like men…everything about them screams male.  Few make any effort to assimilate and then wonder why they are looked on, as a group, as if they were aliens from another world.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Some of the post op transsexuals are no better than the transgender.  Here we have the land of the married men, fathers of children, who often thrust their loving wives into sexless relationships, often quite late in their wife’s life, by announcing one day they have all of a sudden </strong><em>realized</em><strong> they are transsexual.  What hogwash.  Transsexuals – </strong><em>real transsexuals</em><strong> – have always, </strong><em>always</em><strong> known they were transsexual. We have those TS who feel they are intersexed, somehow thinking that by using that definition to justify their fetish in the name of aberration, destroying the lives of their spouses in the process is somehow </strong><em>different</em><strong>.  Spontaneous sex changes, bee stings, intersex epiphanies and Lord knows what else are often thrown up as reasons for their somewhat </strong><em>instant</em><strong> changes.  It’s enough to make one sick…it </strong><em>does</em><strong> make me sick.  All I see is bunch of weird people who continue to live in a state of denial.  It would seem that for once in their lives they could at least be honest with those whose life they have affected in the most adverse of ways.  I’ve asked myself why I have spent the past couple of years on the same screen with these disturbed people.  I couldn’t find an answer and can no longer justify doing so.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>As absolutely pathetic as the transgender are, those long term post ops that even a middle school student could see still have issues with their sex change are just as bad.  This group always throws up the same old tire narrative…over…over…over…and over again.  One says her doctors told her she was the most perfect example of a transsexual they had ever seen…yeah, right.  My own physician told me the same thing, adding “It’s hard to imagine that Susan could have ever been seen as a male.” I know of at least two other post ops that were also told they were the epitome of female and were perfect examples of what transsexual was all about.  See the issue?  Not everyone can be the most “perfect” example…in essence, meaning </strong><em>no one</em><strong> is, including Suzan Cooke…just as there is no perfect example of a woman.  Considering the post op above had surgery in the 1970s, I doubt her doctor had seen many TS to even make a meaningful comparison.  Nonetheless, she throws out so-called undisputed qualifications as if someone gives a flying fly’s butt…and no one does, but the lemming followers who have the same self esteem and validation issues she does.  This same person says almost as often as she posts that she’s an anarchist, yet she advocates for governmental legislation…an oxymoron in itself; how absolutely pathetic is that when someone claims to be something they don’t even know the definition of.  Then there is a group of post ops who seem absolutely hell bent on legitimizing and/or justifying their very existence by claiming to be intersex, never stopping to think about the fact that </strong><em>most</em><strong> intersex are perfectly content with the sex they were assigned at birth…</strong><em>most</em><strong> intersex don’t even </strong><em>know</em><strong> they are intersexed.  Many endocrinologists don’t even consider chromosomal abnormalities, in and of itself, </strong><em>to even be intersex</em><strong>, yet justification of their transsexualism seems to be the all giving manna to them.  I find no joy having this group of misfits in my corner.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Though I have met a fair share of post ops, very few of them are women to me.  Most have been in lesbian relationships with other post ops or transgender as their </strong><em>life partner</em><strong>.  They claim this is a choice; I see it as them being way less than convincing females who simply can’t function romantically with males in the mainstream…they have no choice but to be involved with other transgender </strong><em>for that’s the only romantic relationship they are capable of sustaining</em><strong>; both them and their partners are codependent.  Most seem obsessed with being transsexual and one way or the other it appears their day-to-day lives revolve in someway, one way or the other, with that fact.  They have other transsexuals/transgender that they refer to as their </strong><em>sisters</em><strong>…as if they have some all knowing common bond with others who are also transsexual/transgender.  I think that is simply sick, a blatant example of everything true transsexuals very much are </strong><em>not</em><strong>.  I only know and have any personal association whatsoever with two post ops, both of whom I met through happenchance.  Both of these two are </strong><em>friends</em><strong> of mine, not mutual members of some transsexual sisterhood.  Our friendship is based on two people with common interests of which being transsexual is </strong><em>not</em><strong> one.  In fact, the first time I read or hear another post op refer to other transsexuals as their </strong><em>sisters</em><strong> I know immediately I want nothing to do with the person for they are obsessed with their gender issues.  I have no more in common with a post op transsexual (much less a transgender) than I do with anyone else on the planet.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>I am convinced, however, that the majority of post op transsexuals are much like I am, heterosexual females who have their surgery and then go about our lives.  They don’t have any affinity to the GLBT or other post op transsexuals.  They don’t take part in the gender debate.  Their lives are very much that of the person next door.  They work and go about their business like everyone else in the neighborhood.  They don’t need to obsess.  They don’t need to justify or rationalize what they are or are not, or where they came from.  They don’t need to convince the transgender of anything being quite content to let the everyday person make their own observations and assessments.  Like me, they throw the entire transgender to the masses to seek whatever equilibrium may develop.  Their lives are safely tucked away in the past; if it resurfaces at all, they confront it and then put it back where it belongs…back in the past.  Just like me, they have no stake in the issue.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The truth is…the real truth is…I just don’t give a damn about the gender debate…I’m not really sure why I ever entered it in the first place.  The fact is that I really never did.  The only place the gender debate takes part is on the internet and in that every now and then errant uproar that surfaces when some new legislation appears.  When I first attempted to transition back in 1969 I had one overriding objective and that was to be and function in the mainstream as any other female might…and that did not include the homosexual gayborhood.  I failed.  When I finally succeeded and had GRS that was still my objective.  I worked hard to meet that goal.  And, I achieved it many years ago.  If those who want to argue within the gender debate while at the same time claiming to have had a successful transition… defining that success as acceptance by the fringe GLBT, then more power too them.  They can continue to delude themselves if they like.  For me, integration into the entire mainstream has long since been achieved.  The transgender can be the small fish in the GLBT cage they construct around themselves all they want.  But, it’s still a cage.  A cage they can’t step out of and at the same time experience a real life.  By debating these strange creatures, they are elevated while my life is made less than by, if nothing else, assuming they are reasonable.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender and obsessed transsexuals do not make the rules, society and the mainstream does.  Most people </strong><em>want</em><strong> to live in the mainstream.  I </strong><em>do</em><strong> live in the mainstream.  Society has long since put its stamp of approval on my life.  I came to the gender debate on the internet just over two years ago.  All it has done was to make me feel dirty.  I’m sick of malcontented transvestites insulting me.  I’m sick of gay men I wouldn’t give the time of day to speaking </strong><em>for</em><strong> me, and </strong><em>at</em><strong> me, as if by them being homosexual they have something in common with my life…they don’t and never will.  I doubt I’ve ever seen a group of more disillusioned, obsessed, and maladjusted group than the transgender and some post op transsexuals.  Their critics are quite right when they say these people are </strong><em>confused</em><strong>.  Anyone who thinks a male can become pregnant and give birth…or that a female can have a cock and yet be just as female as the next woman is </strong><em>way</em><strong> more than just </strong><em>confused</em><strong>.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>My thoughts go out to the legitimate and younger pre op transsexuals.  They may do well to continue challenging the transgender.  Personally, I fear their future may depend on it.  Those of us who have successfully transitioned and have buried our old birth certificates in some impregnable state archive are home free.  But, I see a future more and more in which the transgender will be absolutely successful in destroying any legitimacy that true pre op transsexuals may hope to attain.  I feel the transgender of today would see a total victory in their quest if they could ruin any hope that </strong><em>true</em><strong> pre op transsexuals have at even a semblance of a stealth life.  The transgender have already succeeded in colonizing transsexuals in their goal of blurring gender and destroying the binary.  The only hope for those who are coming up the latter toward GRS is to lobby for national gender recognition legislation for post operative transsexuals.  Though it is the only hope for true transsexuals, I don’t see it happening; the transgender refuse to even entertain the idea…it’s no wonder, no one is ever going to recognize a male with a penis as a female, and the transgender wouldn’t get GRS if it were handed to them on a solid gold platter.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">But, as for me, once and for all, I’m out of the gender debate…I don’t have a stake in it. </span> </strong></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…I had a penny for every time I was called a </strong><em>homophobe</em><strong> by the GLB and homosexual transgender I could afford a very nice vacation to </strong><strong>Peru</strong><strong>.  Even though myself and others have consistently said that homosexuals should lobby and rally for whatever right it is that they don’t have yet feel they should, it appears that by standing up for our own heterosexual orientation we are somehow homophobes.  Objecting to gay men speaking for us is somehow relegated to the demon category.  Having issues with lesbian feminists speaking to the gender debate is shouted down.  Our speaking up to this steamroller is silenced…by the gays, the lesbians, </strong><em>and</em><strong> the transgender.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Being called a homophobe is insulting.  We are no more homophobic that the homosexuals are pedophiles.</span></strong></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…I had a nickel for every time I’ve been called a </strong><em>transphobe</em><strong> by the GLB and homosexual T I could afford a new Porsche.  I believe (as with the GLB) that the transgender should also lobby for whatever right it is that they desire, yet do not have as well.  Still, by saying that true transsexuals are different, I am automatically vilified.  By speaking up to the transgender juggernaut I am shoved into the transphobe column for little more than refusing to acquiesce to their politics.  Refusing to recognize a transvestite as a female is apparently not politically correct, even though it flies in the face of sheer common sense.  Objecting to the characterization of a female-to-male &#8211; who not only decides not to have GRS but also become pregnant &#8211; as a female is somehow taboo.  </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Being called a transphobe is an insult.  Women of operative history are no more transphobic than the homosexuals are perverts.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…I had a quarter for every time I’ve been called a hater I could afford both the vacation and the sports car.  Apparently I am expected, as a woman of operative history, to have something in common with both the GLB and homosexual T…</strong><em>just because</em><strong>.  Having nothing in common with the GLBT is </strong><em>de facto</em><strong> hate, at least as far as the GLBT are concerned when it comes to being a women of operative history.  Simply proclaiming such is GLBT heresy.  Having transitioned and had GRS, I have nothing but sympathy for the transvestites and transgender who are cat-called, laughed at, and ridiculed as men in dresses.  But, I also know that not only could many of these transgender do much better presentation wise, they also have to realize that men and women are different and, as a near universal culture, society does not accept parody well when it comes to sex/gender.  It’s the price one pays to stay in the game.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Being called a transphobe for stating the obvious is also insulting.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…I had a half dollar for all of the times the transgender themselves have relegated my own and other women of operative history’s sex/gender to that of a male, no matter what gender surgery we’ve had, I could ship the sports car to Peru and then tour South America.  The same GLB and homosexual transgender who insist on </strong><em>othering</em><strong> themselves by prefixing their womanhood with the </strong><em>trans</em><strong> prefix have absolutely no issues with attempting to do the same thing with me and others.  Trans activists have habitually made reference to post ops as having </strong><em>inverted penis’</em><strong> and </strong><em>after market vaginas</em><strong>.  The reference they make to women of operative history having XY chromosomes is legion, said as much out of spite as jealousy because we have had surgery, and they not only </strong><em>haven’t</em><strong>, but many </strong><em>don’t even desire such</em><strong>, seeing GRS as immaterial and being quite happy to stay anatomically male…refusing to acknowledge that this alone is what makes </strong><em>us</em><strong> different from </strong><em>them</em><strong>.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Being referred to as male by the transgender is demeaning </strong><em>and</em><strong> insulting.  The GLBT has no problem whatsoever insulting women of operative history who object to their appropriation and colonization of our identities and political position.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…I had a dollar for every time I’ve been called a bigot by the GLB and homosexual transgender, I could upgrade the Porsche to a Lamborghini, opt for </strong><strong>Europe</strong><strong> and the </strong><strong>Mediterranean</strong><strong> instead of </strong><strong>Peru</strong><strong> and then take in </strong><strong>Australia</strong><strong> on the way home.  It’s sad that the entire GLB and homosexual transgender feel so persecuted.  Though the GLB seems to </strong><em>have no difficulty</em><strong> speaking for me, </strong><em>I can’t speak for them</em><strong>, but from experience I can tell the transgender that no one really gives a damn about their gender issues.  If they can convincingly present as the gender of their choice and come across as legitimate, the world is their palette to paint with as they wish.  If they </strong><em>can’t</em><strong> do that, nothing else they do is going to matter.  People respond to people, they don’t respond to agendas…society will ignore legislation forcing them to accept something that is in conflict with their sensibilities.  The transgender do the same.  They do it with true transsexuals.  It is not bigotry to accept or reject another, it is human nature.  It’s how people interact with others.  I’ve met true transsexuals I wouldn’t give the time of day to…the same with GLBT types…not to mention every day run-of-the-mill people at work, or that I’ve met socially.  Me liking, accepting, or otherwise responding to other people has nothing to do with bigotry.  It has </strong><em>everything</em><strong> to do with first impressions and personality.  I suppose shouting bigot is easier to justify than the fact that some people are simply not liked by others.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…the GLBT would publicly acknowledge that the majority of women of operative history are not homosexual, myself and others would become their allies…rather than their adversaries.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…the transgender would publicly acknowledge that their umbrella does not include many women of operative history we would also be their allies…instead of their staunchest critics.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…the homosexual movement would cease speaking for females of operative history as if they have some special insight into us, we would disappear from their blogs…many of us would become active supporters.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…the transgender would immediately stop their persistent marginalizing and </strong><em>othering</em><strong> women of operative history by continuing to refer to us as </strong><em>trans</em><strong>women and including us under their umbrella there would be no gender debate.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…the GLBT would condemn actions that stereotypically present </strong><em>all</em><strong> women of operative history as nothing more than homosexual men who have gone to the extreme of gender reassignment surgery there would be peace within the gender debate.  Though some women of operative history are lesbian, the vast majority of us are </strong><em>not</em><strong> homosexual, nor are our partners homosexual.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>IF…only</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The GLBT ignore us.  We are included in the GLBT against our will as the GLBT speak for us while at the same time silencing our narratives and refusing to acknowledge our position that we </strong><em>female</em><strong>…</strong><em>just female</em><strong>…</strong><em>only female</em><strong>; nothing more nor less and we have no propensity to support the homosexual agenda or to be lesbian than the average female next door does.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The GLBT commits the absolute same transgressions against women of operative history as they accuse the mainstream of doing to them.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Many in the mainstream call the GLBT pedophiles; the GLBT call women of operative history haters…for refusing to take shelter under the transgender umbrella.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Many in the mainstream refer to the GLBT as perverts; the GLBT refers to us as homophobes…for nothing more than objecting to their appropriation.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Many in the mainstream think homosexuals are sick and confused people; the GLBT accuse of us abandoning </strong><em>our own kind</em><strong> because we don’t have anything in common with transvestites, crossdressers, and gender queers and refuse political association with them.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Many in the mainstream ignore homosexual advocates when they ask for rights and a place in society; the GLBT silence and ignore the narratives and wishes of women of operative history all the while referring to us as </strong><em>transphobic</em><strong> when we object to their colonization of our identity.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The GLBT is prolonging the inevitable by refusing to recognize the position of women of operative history.  What gains they may make on the national level are completely negated by the many, many states that have constitutional amendments prohibiting same-sex marriage…the GLBT Holy Grail.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">There will be no peace with the GLBT until they recognize that not everyone supports the GLBT and acknowledge that even fewer of us support the transgender.</span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">Are you tired of the transgender and GLBT appropriating the identity of true/classic transsexuality. If you are, drop us a note and we will tell you how you can join our movement. Your e-mail address will be guarded as strictly confidential. Help us break free of the transgender. Pass the e-mail address on to others who feel as you do. Please join us&#8230;</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><a href="mailto:classictranssexual@hotmail.com"><span style="color:#ff0000;">classictranssexual@hotmail.com</span></a></strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest Post By Leigh Smith
On Fear and Hate
 
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<p><strong><em><span style="color:#cc99ff;">On Fear and Hate</span></em></strong></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Hardly an article goes by on any transgender/GLB blog that doesn’t speak of the hatred and bigotry shown to the transgender by society at large. They are all convinced that society is out to get them, to discriminate blindly against them, to hurt them and to ridicule them and to make them feel inhuman. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>I wonder where all this hatred is. Frankly I don’t see it, and apart from a very small percentage of the population who would hate anyone, even and including their own parents, I am not sure it really exists except in the mind of the transgender who drink the lemming Kool Aid served up by the numerous activists and leaders in the GLBT.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>At the Nazi war crimes trials in Nuremberg at the end of World War II, Hermann Goering was quoted as saying: </strong></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;"><strong>&#8220;Naturally the common people don&#8217;t want war&#8230;neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter, in Germany. That is understood. But, after all,</strong> <span style="color:#ff9900;">it is the leaders</span><strong> of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is</strong> <span style="color:#ff9900;">tell them they are being attacked</span><strong>, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.</strong> <span style="color:#ff9900;">It works the same in any country</span><strong>.&#8221;</strong></span></em> </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Actually, this is not the only megalomaniac that ever said something to this effect. Both Julius Caesar and Napoleon are thought to have said similar things, but what it does show is that </strong><em>leaders</em><strong> have a vested interest in spreading fear. The leaders of the Transgender political wing are certainly not above spreading this sort of misinformation, nor are they averse to singling out groups that disagree with their agenda. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Now, I&#8217;m not saying there is not discrimination going on nor that there is not a real and present danger that any particular person will not be the victim of violent crime, but what I am saying is that the fear of such violence has to be balanced and reasoned. All sorts of people get killed or beaten every day.  Women get raped or beaten senseless by their spouses.  All sorts of people are routinely discriminated against and harassed, targeted for unfair dismissal from their workplaces, hated by neighbors and others for no reason at all other than someone just doesn’t like them. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>But isn’t it time the transgender grew up? When are the transgender going to take some personal responsibility for their actions? Being yourself is not always easy to do, for anyone!  It’s like honesty. We are all told that honesty is the best policy but in point of fact being too honest can get you disliked really quickly. We all tell lies, or at least we all tell untruths simply because we have to. If we all told the truth all the time we wouldn’t have any friends.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Anything to do with sex in America is going to raise puritanical hackles. That’s a fact of living in this country. We all want sex and we all enjoy sex but nobody ever discusses it. When’s the last time you had a discussion about sex with your next door neighbor? For the most part, you don’t and it’s because discussing sex with one&#8217;s next door neighbor simply isn’t considered to be in good taste. If you are considering swapping your gender identity, or are in transition to have SRS, didn’t you at some point in time consider that the job might just be dangerous or invite discrimination and ridicule? If you didn’t, then you must be a complete moron. What on earth made you think that the world was just going to welcome its new son or daughter with open arms? </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>So you go ahead anyway and you run into this brick wall and the first thing you do is start the blame game. Everyone is out to get you. It’s all someone else’s fault and so you think all those transgender activists are right, and need to lobby for laws, call in the Human Rights Commission and force the rest of the world to make accommodations for you. It never occurs to you that being yourself and being honest about who you are, can be a bit upsetting to others.  They tend to start thinking you’re a bit crazy or unbalanced. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The activists tell you to be afraid&#8230;and so you are afraid. They tell you that you need to help them pass laws to protect you. They show you the Remembering our Dead wall and they instill fear. In return you give them your allegiance and you truly believe that they will be your salvation. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><em>THEY ARE WRONG. THEY ARE USING YOU FOR POLITICAL GAIN.</em> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>They cannot deliver what they promise because no law has</strong> <em>ever</em> <strong>been able to force people to change their opinions. Only time does that, and it does it by quelling the fear that people have when presented with change. When you try to force something down someone else’s throat, they tend to gag on it. That’s what your seeing, the gag reflex in action. If someone sticks a gun in your face you are likely to become very reasonable toward the person holding it. It won’t make you like them any better, but it will make you more polite.  If you really want to change opinions and end discrimination and stop the hatred then you must not go frightening the population. Forced inclusion is not inclusion at all, it just makes you a gatecrasher at a party you were not invited too.  You might get in the door but you’re going to be the unwelcome guest that nobody speaks too.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Those of us that you accuse of having passing rights and cis-privilege knew that from the get go. We worked within the system, we worked hard to fit in, we went about our business quietly and we tried very, </strong><em>very</em><strong> hard not blame everyone else for something that was, at it’s core,</strong> <em>our</em> <strong>issue and not theirs. Stop it with the blame game, and don’t believe every Hermann Goering that comes knocking at your door offering salvation. You’re just likely to get caught up in a never ending battle where you are the casualty that feeds their ever growing cause while fullfilling their prophecies.</strong></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><span style="color:#ff0000;">Are you tired of the transgender and GLBT appropriating the identity of true/classic transsexuality.  If you are, drop us a note and we will tell you how you can join our movement.  Your e-mail address will be guarded as strictly confidential.  Help us break free of the transgender.  Pass the e-mail address on to others who feel as you do.  Please join us&#8230;</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><a href="mailto:classictranssexual@hotmail.com"><span style="color:#ff0000;">classictranssexual@hotmail.com</span></a></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><a href="mailto:classictranssexual@yahoo.com"><span style="color:#ff0000;">classictranssexual@yahoo.com</span></a></strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is an end to the gender debate possible?  Can the continuing conflict between the transgender and classic transsexuals ever be settled?  Consider the positions: 

Transgender&#8230; 
On the one hand is the transgender.  That group, the transgender, is made up of every possible brand and combination of gender variance.  It is an umbrella term that captures everyone from [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tgnonsense.wordpress.com&blog=3593766&post=771&subd=tgnonsense&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Is an end to the gender debate possible?  Can the continuing conflict between the transgender and classic transsexuals ever be settled?  Consider the positions:</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Transgender&#8230;</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>On the one hand is the transgender.  That group, the transgender, is made up of every possible brand and combination of gender variance.  It is an umbrella term that captures everyone from the casual crossdresser to the intense classic transsexual.  The transgender believe in a gender spectrum, i.e. that everyone</strong> <em>who in any way</em> <strong>presents or identifies as something other than their natal assigned gender</strong> <em>are all alike,</em><strong> only lying on a gradient with that same casual crossdresser at one extreme and the intensely transsexual at the other…sometimes this is explained in terms of a statistical Bell curve.  It is impossible to discuss transgender without also speaking of the GLBT (Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender) movement…many, if not most of the transgender activist, are homosexual; some claim bisexuality.  Almost all transgender feel some form of affinity with the GLB and, in general, subscribe to and support GLB political issues across the board. </strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender do </strong><em>not</em><strong> generally believe in the gender binary, meaning they propose there are </strong><em>not</em><strong> just males and females but a whole range of genders that are</strong> <em>partly</em> <strong>male or</strong> <em>partly</em> <strong>female in varying degrees.  The transgender see biological sex and gender as two entirely</strong> <em>different</em> <strong>things…typically, sex is between the legs; gender is between the ears.  This group feels that it is entirely possible for one to be absolutely female,</strong> <em>yet have a penis</em><strong>…while in no way being biologically intersexed.  The transgender feel there is unquestionably</strong> <em>no need</em><strong> to have Gender Reassignment Surgery (GRS) in order to align one’s body with their psychologically perceived sex/gender.  In short, the transgender believe that all one has to do is</strong> <em>present and act</em><strong> male/female in order to actually </strong><em>be</em><strong> male/female.  And…there is an almost infinite variety of</strong> <em>&#8220;partly male or partly female.&#8221;</em><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Transgender ideology is such that they believe it is quite possible for an individual to realize quite late in life that they are actually </strong><em>not</em><strong> their natal-assigned sex/gender.  This </strong><em>gender variance</em><strong>, as it’s called, can then be assuaged by </strong><em>transitioning</em><strong>.  Transitioning, to the transgender, can range from having GRS to simply presenting as, or acting the part of, their target sex/gender.  Transgender do not believe GRS is necessary in order to complete gender transition…or </strong><em>absolutely</em><strong> necessary at all. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender believe that anyone who disagrees with their philosophies and definitions &#8211; primarily classic transsexuals but the mainstream as well – are haters, elitists, homophobic, transphobic, and separatists.  They believe that anyone who is gender variant and of whom fall under their umbrellas should stay there for the betterment of their cause;</strong> <em>they absolutely refuse to acknowledge classic transsexuality is different than other forms of gender variance.</em> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender life narrative is as varied as the spectrum they support with no defined, “in common” path or psychology.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Classic Transsexuality&#8230;</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Classic transsexuality could not be more diametrically opposite with respect to transgenderism.  Classic transsexuals believe they are singular and quite different that transgender.  This group, classic transsexuals, does not believe that there is a gender spectrum.  Intersex excepted, classic transsexuals believe in the gender binary, i.e. that there are </strong><em>only</em><strong> males and females.  Again, with the exception of the biologically intersexed, this group believes that there is </strong><em>no</em><strong> gender gradient and that no person can have a sex/gender that is </strong><em>partly</em><strong> male or </strong><em>partly</em><strong> female, though they fully acknowledge that there are degrees of masculine behavior/interests in females and feminine behavior/interests in males exhibited by everyone.  Classic transsexuals do not believe they lie on a gender gradient or </strong><strong>Bell</strong><strong> curve…they do believe that this gradient exists for the transgender, however.  Many, me included, believe that classic transsexuals are predominately heterosexual though there are most definitely classic transsexuals who are gay/lesbian.  However, gay and lesbian classic transsexuals </strong><em>do not first and foremost</em><strong> identify as gay or lesbian, but</strong> <em>first and foremost</em><strong> as either male or female.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Classic transsexuals see sex and gender as synonymous terms, though they fully acknowledge that the transgender, by definition, have different sex/gender definitions germane to their construct.</strong>  <em>Classic transsexuals absolutely believe that GRS is imperative; it is the single trait that differentiate classic transsexuality from transvestism.</em><strong>  Classic transsexuals certainly recognize there are those who have completely transitioned, including having GRS, later in life; those who have done so have the</strong> <em>same narrative</em><strong> as those who completed transition at a younger age.  Transitioning to classic transsexuals is absolutely </strong><em>not complete</em><strong> until GRS is performed.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Classic transsexuals believe that the transgender should lobby for whatever rights they feel they deserve, yet do not have…but do not believe that the issues of transgenderism parallel those of classic transsexuality.  Classic transsexuals do not hate the transgender but very much object to being included under their umbrella.  Classic transsexuals see this inclusion as an appropriation and colonization of their very being against their will…as being held captive in an organization in which they do not belong yet are powerless to escape from.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The narratives of the classic transsexuals are the same…in </strong><em>every</em> <strong>instance.  Classic transsexuals realize from very,</strong> <em>very</em> <strong>early childhood that they are different and not like other girls and boys…they are in the wrong body…and from the time they realized it is possible strive to have GRS in order to correct nature’s mistake.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>So, with both side’s general position defined, is it possible for the gender debate to end?  I think the answer is…YES, it is</strong> <em>possible</em><strong>.  However, I doubt it will, and here’s why.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The primary stumbling block in any peace between classic transsexuality and transgenderism is the issue of</strong> <em>identity appropriation</em><strong>.  The transgender consistently hold the position that </strong><em>“we are just like you”</em><strong>, i.e. classic transsexuality and transgenderism is basically the same thing, with classic transsexuality being part of the transgender umbrella and resting within a gender spectrum composed of every conceivable form of gender variance…none of which are completely male</strong> <em>or</em><strong> completely female, but </strong><em>partly</em><strong> male and </strong><em>partly</em><strong> female.  This is demeaning in the very worst of ways to classic transsexuals who see themselves as </strong><em>completely</em><strong> male or female, only requiring GRS to right a wrong.  In other words, it is </strong><em>not</em><strong> classic transsexuals who are saying</strong> <em>we are part of transgender</em><strong>, but the transgender who are saying</strong> <em>classic transsexuals are a part of us</em><strong>.  </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>No societal group has the right to appropriate and colonize another into its ranks should they not desire the annexation.  Classic transsexuals do not desire annexation into the transgender.  Classic transsexuals readily admit that transgender is different and respect their right to do as they choose; the transgender do not return that understanding.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>It could be argued that, well, no one is </strong><em>forcing</em><strong> classic transsexuals to define as transgender…if classic transsexuals don’t define as transgender then fine, don’t.  That seems reasonable on the face, but is quite absurd when taken a closer look at.  Classic transsexuality is extremely rare.  By nature, we are not activists.  In fact, generally, classic transsexuals are quite reclusive, preferring to transition and then merge with the mainstream, living our lives out as any other man or woman might…the reality is that we already </strong><em>do not</em><strong> </strong><em>define as transgender</em><strong>.  However, the transgender and their GLB supporters hold the spotlight.  There are hundreds and hundreds of thousands of transgender and their GLB supporters.  In comparison, there are only a few tens of thousands who are classic transsexuals.  </strong><em>All</em><strong> of the gender activists are transgender.  And, those activists, along with their multitudes of GLB supporters, routinely and habitually, as a matter of course, cultivate the mindset within the mainstream media spotlight that transgender </strong><em>includes</em><strong> classic transsexuality…there is never a mention by these activists of the fact that tens of thousands of pre and post op transsexuals are not transgender and reject their paradigm.   The bottom line is that classic transsexuals </strong><em>are defined</em><strong> </strong><em>as transgender</em><strong> by the very transgender machine that invites us</strong> <em>not to define </em><strong>as transgender should we choose not to.  <em>Catch 22</em> at its finest.  As a noted transgender advocate once said: </strong><em>“There are those [classic transsexuals] who want to separate from the transgender movement…as if that is possible.”</em><strong> </strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The battle lines of the gender debate have long been drawn.  The question is whether or not there is a solution to the debate?  In fact, there is.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The solution is for the GLBT in general and the transgender specifically </strong><em>to  recognize and publicly acknowledge that classic transsexuality is different than, and not a part of, transgender. </em><strong> Not better…just different.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>That’s all it would take for the gender debate to end.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Classic transsexuals have no desire to constantly defend themselves from the rampant GLBT appropriation of our identity.  As mentioned, it is </strong><em>not</em><strong> classic transsexuality that is trying to join the GLBT, but the GLBT that is </strong><em>prohibiting</em><strong> our disassociation from their group by not acknowledging our differences.  Classic transsexuals keep saying </strong><em>we know who we are and we are not like the transgender</em><strong>; the transgender keeps saying </strong><em>we are just like you even though they obviously can&#8217;t know who we are</em><strong>&#8230;classic transsexuals </strong><em>are not</em><strong> saying to the transgender </strong><em>“would you please join our group”</em><strong>; the transgender are saying to classic transsexuals </strong><em>“we are not going allow you to leave ours.”</em><em> </em></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Until classic transsexuals are publicly differentiated from the transgender – </strong><em>by the transgender and the GLBT</em><strong> – there can and will not be any peace in the gender debate.</strong><em> </em></span></p>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>I’ve mentioned before that I attempted to transition twice before finally succeeding and going on to have GRS…both attempts lasted a couple of years…both attempts failed.  Forty years ago I was 19 when I first tried to transition, just before I became a licensed hairdresser.  I had cross dressed for virtually my entire life; I had the basics of hair and makeup down pat by the time I graduated high school.  But, full-time transitioning and part time clandestine crossdressing while an adolescent and teen are two entirely different things.  When I first transitioned, I learned very early on what was required to get on in the world.  And, though I never worried about it much, I very much <em>did</em> want to</strong> <em>“…get on in the world.”</em> <strong> Suffice to say, passing was very important to me, but it had no bearing on whether or not I would transition…</strong><em>that</em><strong> was a given.  It’s just I’ve never been under any illusions about whether I pass or not.  However, there are many who are somewhat delusional about the issue of passing.</strong></span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Those who know me would say I’m somewhat of a girly-girl.  I like to dress very nice if I’m going out.  If a business appointment calls or if I’m going some place that requires I look nice, I spend a fair amount of time on my hair and makeup (I do my own nails) and put myself together well.  But, aside from work, events that require presenting nicely really don’t come up all that often.  If I’m not working I don’t get up and put on makeup…same if I’m working in the yard.  Running to the grocery doesn’t require getting dressed up…or most other activities.  Most of life is simply shorts, sandals, and a t-shirt in summer…jeans, running shoes, and a sweater in the winter.  Take a look around, I’m not much different than most other women in that regard. </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>When I hear someone on the blogs go on and on about how they pass I&#8217;m almost certain, before I see any videos or pix,</strong> <em>that they don&#8217;t</em><strong>; always optimistic, I&#8217;m never disappointed.  I’m also reminded of playing pool…or at least a story that started there.  One night about 10 years ago I found myself playing at a pool tournament in Fort Worth, Texas.  I’m very good at pool.  If I’m having a good night, I’m all but unbeatable.  The tournament was at a mixed gay/straight club…and I</strong> <em>was</em><strong> having a good night.  After the tournament, eight or ten of us decided we would all go to a local restaurant to get something to eat. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>As we sat around two tables hastily pushed together waiting to be served, I found myself listening to a conversation between a straight couple and what could only be called…a </strong><em>transgender</em><strong>.  All three had played in the tournament.  This TG was a very loud caricature of a woman…ratty blond wig, scuffed up heels, too tight jeans replete with a beer belly overhang, too tight/skin tight top, too long fake one inch nails with too neon pink polish, too exaggerated femininity, and an all wrong makeup job.  Evidently the conversation she was having with the straight couple was over passing…and how she </strong><em>always</em><strong> did. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Loudly, the transgender brags,</strong> <em>“Nobody ever clocks me.  NOBODY!”</em><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>No sooner had the words left the TG’s mouth than the Hispanic waitress arrives, passes out the menus and says to the TG,</strong> <em>“May I help you, sir?”</em><strong>  The entire group cracked up.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The TG, all indignant like, responded in a flash,</strong> <em>“I’m no man!”</em><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The waitress, flustered and apologetic, but suddenly and obviously quite nervous then said…way, way too quickly…</strong> <em>“Oh…I’m sorry, sir.”</em> </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">The rest was lost as everyone else at the table bowled over in a howl of laughter. </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">This is not unusual really.  The internet is full of those bragging about how well they pass.  Then the photos and videos tell a different story.  Most of these people are out and proud…most are transgender.  Everything about them screams men and transvestite.  They pose in the mirror, filming themselves in their version of a woman’s pose and then post it on the internet.  Many have before (as a man) and after (as a man in a dress) pictures on their site, or on blog threads that solicit that. </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>They are</strong> <em>almost always</em><strong> inappropriately dressed…and</strong> always<strong> dressed in a way no </strong><em>real</em><strong> woman would ever be.  They dress in too tight dresses, heels, hose, fake nails, and over the top everything…just to go for a car ride.  They wear sleeveless tops when they have arms the size of Russian weightlifter.  Some are 6’2”…built like a linebacker…and then dress like one&#8230;adding incomprehensible insult to illfated injury.  The high and easily read falsetto voice is never far behind.  This group is never dressed well enough when its called for and always overdressed when it’s not.  Their style is early trailer trash…brassy. </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>For the transgender, it’s not about </strong><em>being</em><strong>…but about </strong><em>presenting in true transvestite form</em><strong>.  They think that is what it’s about; they are wrong. </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">They swear they pass…all they do is draw attention…like a cheap street queen or transvestite. </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">It’s an illusion. </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Women know women.</span></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since I first wrote about Miss Jasper Gregory last Thursday in &#8220;This is What a Transwoman Looks Like&#8221;  there have been numerous blog essays about this person.  Will Miss Jasper ever go away?  Well, I for one hope Miss Jasper doesn’t, but not for the reasons some may think.  I think Miss Jasper Gregory is the best [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tgnonsense.wordpress.com&blog=3593766&post=765&subd=tgnonsense&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Since I first wrote about Miss Jasper Gregory last Thursday in <em>&#8220;This is What a Transwoman Looks Like&#8221;</em>  there have been numerous blog essays about this person.  Will Miss Jasper ever go away?  Well, I for one hope Miss Jasper doesn’t, but not for the reasons some may think.  I think Miss Jasper Gregory is the best thing since sliced bread and here’s why.</strong> </span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>For years now a very few of us have waded into the major GLBT and mainstream blogs saying one thing:</strong>  <em>classic transsexualism is very different from transgender.</em> <strong> The result of this internet bravery has been a tirade of insults and shout-downs that truly has to be experienced to be appreciated.  We have persevered.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>What makes us different is that we have had an innate sense from an extremely early age of having been born in the wrong body…emphasis on </strong><em>the wrong body</em><strong>.  It’s the wrong body part, along with an </strong><em>all consuming life or death need</em><strong> to make our bodies as close to </strong><em>right</em><strong> as humanly possible through gender reassignment surgery, that is often lost in the mix when discussing the issue with others, particularly with the transgender advocates.  Even the staunchest of the gender theorists will admit that there are a very small percentage of people who feel the way we do, a </strong><em>very</em><strong> small percentage.  In the past, those who feel the way we do have been called transsexuals.</strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Make no mistake about it; there are groups on both sides of the gender debate that are extremists.  But, for the most part, transsexuals have never denied the transgender whatever it is that they feel like they must have.  All we have said is that</strong> <em>we are different than you</em><strong>.  And, by being different we object to being included within the GLBT political and social sphere.  For the transgender activists that is unacceptable on both fronts.  First, the transgender have colonized and appropriated transsexuality while insisting it is just part of an overall spectrum of which transsexuality is just one part…</strong><em>gender queer</em><strong>, androgynies, transvestites, and every other conceivable form of gender expression making up the remainder.  And, secondly, the GLBT advocates continue to speak for us, not acknowledging that we strongly and fiercely object to their inclusion of us under the GLBT political and social umbrella.  Yet, we continue to be held captive by the GLBT and it&#8217;s both maddening and unacceptable.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Miss Jasper Gregory has revealed the transgender as never before…and as one of those who has faced more hostile transgender responses to my blog comments than there are grains of sand, I love him for it.  You see, Jasper </strong><em>is</em><strong> transgender.  Jasper is</strong> <em>gender queer</em><strong>.  Jasper is also the pariah of the transgender movement, having taken the extremes of gender expression to lengths never before approached…extremes that the transgender movement has defended for years.  However, now that they are actually faced with their theoretical child they are stampeding in an effort to distance themselves from the very nemesis they created.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Every conceivable spin has been placed on Jasper’s transgender position.  When everything else failed, as of the last few days, they simply dismissed this gender queer as </strong><em>not</em><strong> transgender at all…and waved their hands as though that alone will magically make Miss Jasper’s embarrassment to them go away.  The transgender have in effect, assaulted one of their own</strong> <em>for not being transgender enough</em><strong>, essentially saying the same thing to Jasper’s gender queerness that transsexuals have said for years to the transgender themselves…namely, we are different; we are not like you.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>It’s a sad day for the transgender.  On Sopia’s blog, two dyed-in-the-wool transgender advocates are now saying they are</strong> <em>not</em> <strong>transgender at all but transsexual…that, after earlier, in defense, informing a woman of operative history that transsexual</strong> <em>was</em><strong> transgender.  On another blog, one admittedly mentally ill transgender tried to lay off Miss Jasper’s position as simply this gender queer parroting </strong><em>Enough Non-Sense</em><strong> and </strong><em>TS-Si</em><strong>&#8230;an obvious and blantant lie.  </strong><strong>The smoke and mirrors continue as the transgender try to confuse the Miss Jasper issue on every front.  The same </strong><em>no-one-makes-a-distinction-between-transgender-and transsexual </em><strong>argument was brought out in an attempt to shift the focus.  </strong><em>We-have-mutual-issues</em><strong> was touted, as though by saying classic transsexuals have mutual interests with the transgender&#8230;we do.  Employment discrimination has been brought into the Miss Jasper debate…as has hate crimes.  Some have been called right wing fundamentalist for even writing about it.  One self-described </strong><em>transsexual transgender</em><strong> says that </strong><em>“Even if you have a vagina, if you look like Hulk Hogan, you’re going to get sirred and no one will think of you as a woman, transsexual or otherwise”</em><strong> in the vein of genitals don’t define sex/gender… as if the possibility of being read is a consideration when transsexual contemplates having GRS.  </strong><strong> </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Every attempt at shifting the focus, confusing the discussion, attacking, lying, insulting and shouting down has failed the transgender&#8230;Miss Jasper won&#8217;t go away.  And, the transgender just can’t seem to dance fast enough.  The transgender are in a quandary…it’s the transgender word of the day.</span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">I hope Miss Jasper doesn&#8217;t fade into the internet sunset; but if he quite suddenly and instantly vanished it wouldn&#8217;t be too soon for the transgender&#8230;who, of course, aren&#8217;t like him.</span></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Hey sweeties&#8221;&#8230; straight from the horse’s mouth…THIS is what a trans woman looks like.  Meet Jasper, a transgender sister who is not bashful in giving us a perfect lesson in what a transgender woman really is.  Miss Jasper is just as female as anyone else.  What?  You don’t believe it?  Well, just ask any GLBT [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=tgnonsense.wordpress.com&blog=3593766&post=757&subd=tgnonsense&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em>&#8220;Hey sweeties&#8221;&#8230; </em><strong>straight from the horse’s mouth…</strong><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Fax_Y9AAI&amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eyoutube%2Ecom%2Fuser%2FStraightQueer&amp;feature=player_profilepage"><span style="color:#ffff00;"><strong>THIS</strong></span></a><strong> is what a </strong><em>trans </em><strong>woman looks like.  Meet </strong><a href="http://jasperswardrobe.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/passing-and-stealth-are-bad-for-us/"><span style="color:#ffff00;"><strong>Jasper</strong></span></a><strong>, a transgender</strong> <em>sister</em><strong> who is not bashful in giving us a perfect lesson in what a </strong><em>transgender</em><strong> woman </strong><em>really</em><strong> is.  Miss Jasper is just as female as anyone else.  What?  You don’t believe it?  Well, just ask any GLBT activist or advocate and they will tell you their</strong> <em>sister</em><strong>, Miss Jasper, is right.  Go ahead.  I dare you.  But don’t bother going to Miss Jasper&#8217;s web site.  Our group has already given it a shot and our comments never made it out of the site&#8217;s moderation files.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Ms. Jasper is absolutely right about one thing though…strictly speaking for myself, I very much do &#8220;claim the difference…” from this pathetic, fetish driven, transgender </strong><em>sister</em><strong>.</strong></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, after commenting on a September 2, 2009 TS-Si guest post by Suzan Cooke entitled Classic Transsexual, among other things I questioned the wisdom of believing anyone’s internet narrative unless it was substantiated/proved, I was told this by Cathryn Platine: 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Recently, after commenting on a September 2, 2009 TS-Si guest post by Suzan Cooke entitled </span></strong><a href="http://ts-si.org/guest-columns/19233-classic-transsexual.html"><strong><span style="color:#ffff00;">Classic Transsexual</span></strong></a><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">, among other things I questioned the wisdom of believing anyone’s internet narrative unless it was substantiated/proved, I was told this by Cathryn Platine:</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“You Susan, are just electrons impacting on a cathode ray tube to me&#8230;..I&#8217;ve never met anyone who knows you personally so should I, according to your own standards, just believe you are some random guy in a stained wifebeater tee, swilling beer claiming to be a woman on the internut?” That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m left with using your criteria&#8230;.. I&#8217;ve noticed that those who make such statements (&#8220;I don&#8217;t believe anyone&#8217;s life stories without proof&#8221;) often do so from what is called &#8220;projection&#8221; in psychology, especially on the internut. It comes from seeing in others that we know to be true of ourselves.”</span></em></span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">My response was:</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“You can, and should, assume anything you damn well like, Cathryn, who knows, you might be righter than you think.”</span></em></span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>As this was the</strong> <em>second time</em><strong> in the blog thread I was challenged by Cathryn Platine, I ended the above comment with this:</strong> </span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“You&#8217;ve come at me twice in this thread, out of the blue, so since you brought it up, you are partly right. I sure don&#8217;t give a flying screw about your religion, nor lesbianism, and certainly not feminism. You&#8217;re wrong, however, when you say that I attack those issues. If and when I decide to come at your position, you won&#8217;t have to wonder if I have or not.”</span></em></span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Lisa Thompson, the owner of TS-Si, in a burst of brilliance, responded &#8211; in about as juvenile and immature a way as possible &#8211; that by my way of thinking I&#8217;d have to visit a country before I accepted it existed…to which I responded:</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“Lisa, if you want to compare geographical reality with internet embellishment then go friggin crazy. But, I think you&#8217;ve lost your friggin mind. .That&#8217;s about as juvenile an argument as I&#8217;ve ever heard&#8230;what a lame analogy&#8230;get a friggin life. I will tell you as I tell catkisser, if you want to believe everything you read and an individuals claim on the internet, then great&#8230;I don&#8217;t.”</span></em></span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em>She has since deleted the comment she made that lead me to respond in that manner.</em><strong>  She also deleted a</strong> <em>second</em> <strong>baiting comment.  That’s the TS-Si way of controlling opinion…bait with a an insulting, asinine comment, and then delete the baiting comment after one responds.  Baiting someone on your blog with a comment and then deleting the baiting comment to make the person who addresses it look bad is pubescent child behaviour.  I don&#8217;t participate in that kind of crap, and no doubt there will be no one who questions TS-Si about why she deleted her two baiting comments after I responded.  </strong> </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Either way, I took the bait and unloaded, expressing exactly what I thought of Suzan Cooke’s “history”, TS lesbians in love with other TS lesbians, feminism, and fringe religions…ending my parting shot by saying:</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“None of you four are any ally of mine. I said there would be no question when I came at another position, and you can bet your sweet wig, Lisa, I will be calling TS-Si out on every occasion I get. I know who my allies are against the TG construct&#8230;Suzan Cooke, Lisa Thompson, and Cathryn Platine&#8230;you don&#8217;t qualify. Each of you give hypocrisy new meaning.”</span></em></span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">That garnered a shot across the bow from Joanne Proctor:</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“This is what gives everybody else who works to advance Intersexed and transsexed legitimacy a bad name. I reject this kind of rant out of hand. You, Susan, are no ally of mine! I do not want your bile around me!”</span></em></span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p></blockquote>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Nice, huh?</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>There are a couple of things I should note.  The &#8220;bile&#8221; Joanne refers to had </strong><em>nothing</em><strong> to do with either transsexualism or the transgender.  Specifically, they were about internet narratives and my personal opinion on one person’s, TS lesbianism, feminism, and fringe religions and have nothing to do whatsoever with advancing intersex/transsexued legitimacy.  Secondly, I comment all over the blogosphere doing my best to advance the legitimacy of classic transsexuals and making the differentiation between transsexual and transgender and I run into a lot of people doing the same, but seldom ever do I encounter Joanne Proctor</strong> <em>except on TG/TS/IS sites</em><strong>, never on a mainstream site,</strong> <em>where it&#8217;s actually heard</em><strong>&#8230;debating gender on a TS/IS site is not a debate, it&#8217;s discussion with people who for the most part feel just like you do.  Either way, I personally don&#8217;t give a damn about Cooke, lesbianism, feminism, nor fringe religions; I was baited and I bit.  My entire reason for being in the gender debate is based on the transgender claiming to represent and speak for transsexuals…I hate the umbrella.  My reference to allies regarded that.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Subsequently, Joanne Proctor, then proceeded to comment on yet another TS-Si post, this one by Lisa Thompson in which, yet again, she</strong> <em>lampoons</em> <strong>and</strong> <em>ridicules</em> <strong>the transgender.  The name of this essay was </strong></span><a href="http://ts-si.org/global-warning/19230-tales-from-the-rainbow-bough.html"><span style="color:#ffff00;"><strong>Tales from the Rainbow Bough</strong></span></a><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>.  Of the six comments made on that post,</strong> <em>three</em> <strong>of them were by Joanne Proctor joining in on the hilarity and ridicule of the transgender…but, of course, her comments weren’t bile.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Either way, Joanne Proctor is right…I am no ally of hers…</strong><em>nor is she mine</em><strong>.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The issue is what an ally </strong><em>really</em><strong> is. </strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Allies support each other.  They defend each other.  Allies don’t necessarily have to agree word for word but they do have to agree on the overall position in which the alliance is based.</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">I have defended Cathryn Platine more times than I can count.  When she was banned from <em>Pam’s House Blend</em>, I wrote a blog post <a href="http://tgnonsense.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/the-silencing-of-cathryn-platine/"><span style="color:#ffff00;">HERE</span></a> on it.  I commented on PHB about it as well, risking being banned from there myself in the process.  On the other hand, when I was banned from WBT for calling Calpernia Addams a post op drag queen and telling Suzan Cooke that calling all straight people boring and conservative was the most ignorant thing I’d heard in twenty years, Cathryn referred to that as a “personality” issue…and remained silent.  Had that been the only time Cathryn had declined to step up in my defense, I’d have been fine with it…but it wasn’t.  Her recent defense of Suzan Cooke and her lobbying, as Cooke does, for TG/TS nomenclature, coupled with the two episodes I just mentioned puts her firmly into someone else’s camp, but certainly not in mine.  She’s good with that, and believe me, so am I.</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Joanne Proctor has said that the Women Born Transsexual and TS-Si are two of the three best blogs on the web…saying </span></strong><a href="http://sophiaofthescythes.wordpress.com/2009/08/17/transgender/#comment-76"><strong><span style="color:#ffff00;">HERE</span></strong></a><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">:</span></strong><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"> </span></strong></p>
<blockquote><p><em><span style="color:#ff6600;">“That said, apart from TS-Si, Sophia’s new blog and Suzan’s WBT blog, I can’t find too much rational discussion on the web.” </span></em></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>That’s pretty telling.  Suzan Cooke’s WBT </strong><em>is</em><strong> transgender centric, as she now has decided to work with the transgender for mutually beneficial causes like hate crime legislation and ENDA (even though she supposedly an anarchist).  And, TS-Si not only now publishes Suzan Cooke (read</strong> <em>transgender</em><strong>), but also publishes essay upon essay lampooning the transgender which, when TS-Si does it isn’t bile.  Go figure&#8230;</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>A while back, two of us got together and formed an internet group.  We formed with just one premise, i.e., </strong><em>to speak individually, but as one voice, in challenging the transgender at every opportunity. </em><strong> We don’t sit around writing endless narrative.  We don’t sit around quoting the latest research.  We are coordinated. We act.  We respond.  And, we do so consistently, persistently, and reasonably.  Our group is growing and we’ve succeeded in shutting down threads spouting TG non-sense.  When someone’s name is brought up for membership in our group their position on the gender debate is discussed in depth.  Each of us come from different spheres of internet experience, all of which are related to the gender debate.  Once we decide amongst ourselves if there is someone out there of whom might share our position we approach them…present a little information, ask if they think they might be interested in joining.  Some have accepted.  Some have declined.  Most have not been asked to join.  All of us share one thing in common:  a sense of</strong> <em>loyalty</em> <strong>and</strong> <em>unity</em> <strong>in our quest to speak with one voice to the transgender.  If one of us goes at someone,</strong> <em>we all go at them</em><strong>.  If someone attacks one of us,</strong> <em>they may as well attack each and every one of us</em><strong>.  We</strong> <em>know</em> <strong>who our allies are&#8230;and aren&#8217;t&#8230; for sure.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The transgender have been successful in their appropriation of transsexualism because they are tenacious.  They don’t give up.  They don’t give even a nanometer of ground.  They don’t compromise.  They are unified.  They support each other and are quick to bannish those with a change of heart.  They defend each other.  There</strong> <em>is</em> <strong>no common ground with the transgender construct.  For one to say they have decided to work with the transgender to achieve goals that are mutually beneficial for both the transgender and transsexual is capitulation to their own colonization.  No one who feels as we do sees any good whatsoever coming out of</strong> <em>any</em> </span><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">type of alliance with the transgender.  To us, rewriting <em>GLB</em></span><span style="color:#ff0000;"><em>T</em> </span><span style="color:#cc99ff;">as <em>GLB</em></span></strong><em><span style="color:#ff0000;"><strong>T/TS</strong></span></em> <span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>is just a further manifestation of transgender&#8230;and is no revision whatsoever.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em>Any</em> <strong>type of political association to transgender…</strong><em>is</em> <strong>transgender.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em>Any</em> <strong>defense of transgender strategy…</strong><em>is</em> <strong>transgender.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em>Any</em> <strong>alliance whatsoever, on any plane, at any level with the transgender…</strong><em>is</em> <strong>transgender.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><em>Any</em> <strong>compromise with regard to the transgender…</strong><em>is</em> <strong>transgender.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>The friend of our adversary…</strong><em>is</em> <strong>our adversary.</strong> </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>Our adversary is </strong><em>not</em> <strong>our ally…and we certainly</strong> <em>know</em> <strong>who our adversaries are.</strong></span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><span style="color:#00ff00;">UPDATED  09-09-09</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong><span style="color:#00ff00;">In the above essay, I write:</span></strong></span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><span style="color:#00ccff;"><em>&#8220;She has since deleted the comment she made that lead me to respond in that manner.</em><strong>  She also deleted a</strong> <em>second</em> <strong>baiting comment.  That’s the TS-Si way of controlling opinion…bait with a an insulting, asinine comment, and then delete the baiting comment after one responds.  Baiting someone on your blog with a comment and then deleting the baiting comment to make the person who addresses it look bad is pubescent child behaviour.  I don&#8217;t participate in that kind of crap, and no doubt there will be no one who questions TS-Si about why she deleted her two baiting comments after I responded. &#8221;</strong></span></span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><span style="color:#00ff00;"><strong>My attention has been called to <a href="http://ts-si.org/looking-glass/19456-site-update-denial-of-service.html"><span style="color:#ff6600;">THIS EDITORIAL</span></a>.  TS-Si contends their site was the subject of a Denial of Service attack which lead to certain comments being temporarily &#8221;unpublished&#8221; in an effort to maintain TS-Si&#8217;s site integrity.  This information was</strong> <em>not</em> <strong>available to me at the time I published the above.  </strong></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><span style="color:#00ff00;"><strong>Based on the circumstances, I choose to accept TS-Si&#8217;s explanation&#8230;and openly apologize to them for the insinuations made in my essay. </strong></span></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Yes, I&#8217;m transgender and proud&#8230;So to answer you…yes we are proud&#8230;Many of us are unashamedly transgender.” 
I guess many are simply out of sync. 
Perhaps we should have some T-shirts made.  In hot pink with black letters we could have printed on the front of them: 
I’M PROUD TO BE TRANSGENDER
I’M NOT REALLY FEMALE
I’M A TRANS FEMALE
I’M SPECIAL 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><a href="http://www.transadvocate.com/yes-pat-robertson-im-transgender-and-proud.htm"><span style="color:#ffff00;">“Yes, I&#8217;m transgender and proud&#8230;So to answer you…yes we are proud&#8230;Many of us are unashamedly transgender.”</span></a><span style="color:#ffff00;"> </span></span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">I guess many are simply out of sync. </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Perhaps we should have some T-shirts made.  In hot pink with black letters we could have printed on the front of them: </span></strong></p>
<p align="center"><strong><span style="color:#ff6600;">I’M PROUD TO BE TRANSGENDER</span></strong></p>
<p align="center"><strong><span style="color:#ff6600;">I’M NOT REALLY FEMALE</span></strong></p>
<p align="center"><span style="color:#ff6600;"><strong>I’M A </strong><em><span style="color:#ff0000;">TRANS</span></em><strong> FEMALE</strong></span></p>
<p align="center"><strong><span style="color:#ff6600;">I’M SPECIAL </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">And, then on the back: </span></strong></p>
<p align="center"><strong><span style="color:#ff6600;">I’M NOT A REAL WOMAN</span></strong></p>
<p align="center"><span style="color:#ff6600;"><strong>I’M A </strong><em><span style="color:#ff0000;">TRANS</span></em><strong> WOMAN</strong></span></p>
<p align="center"><strong><span style="color:#ff6600;">YOU BELIEVE IT</span></strong></p>
<p align="center"><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><span style="color:#ff6600;">IT’S TRUE</span> </span></strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="color:#cc99ff;">Yes!  Now that is a shirt the transgender  could be proud of.  That will certainly assuage the mainstream&#8217;s misgivings that the transgender are nothing but a bunch of mind screw freaks.  Perhaps we should order them right away… </span></strong></p>
<p><span style="color:#cc99ff;"><strong>And then give them away to every transgender we can.  I&#8217;m sure they would appreciate it.  After all, the transgender are</strong> <em>proud</em> <strong>to be something</strong> <em>other than</em><strong> female&#8230;they are</strong> <em>proud</em> <strong>to be transgender.</strong></span></p>
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