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In “No Such Thing”, John Mayer says:

Well I never lived the dreams of the prom kings
And the drama queens

I didn’t either.  But, drama, as it’s mentioned above is a fact of life…

“Welcome to the real world,” she said to me

Condescendingly

Before I start, if I was single, and thirty five or forty years younger I’d go on a world wide, no holds barred quest to land John Mayer.  Cute as a bug in a rug just doesn’t do him justice…damn, he’s good looking.

But, back on topic Leigh’s post of a few days ago left some loose ends I must tie up.  First off, on the subject of banning…neither Elizabeth nor lisalee18wheeler are not banned from my blog. No one is banned from my blog.  On the other hand, anyone who thinks they can come here and generally be insulting should rethink their plans.


Just a mere week or so ago, in an IM chat, I was asked by Evangelina what I thought about Liz  After me asking just what Liz we were talking about, I said the following (from my chat archives):

Ah…same as I did last time we chatted…she’s another blogger. I certainly don’t approve of her nailing Aria Blue, then again, I don’t approve of how Aria came at her either. She just another name on the net to me, (name deleted).

I went on to say:

We’ve both been around too long to automatically give legitimacy to someone who simply shows up one day talking a good talk. Just like with Ashley Love…we’ll see.

And, then, continuing…emphasis added:

I think so…I did find all of her claims about Aria Blue interesting though…if they are the truth…But I personally don’t think much of her for doing that.

Evangelina’s response was:

If you’re going to “slap someone around the head” to get their attention you do it without the personal stuff

Yes, you do it “without the personal stuff,” Evangelina.  So, perhaps it’s a bit easier to understand my dismay when I see Evangelina post THIS on Leigh’s essay…emphasis mine:

Liz, has been a close friend in these few weeks and although the fight with Aria was not of my making I believe she was entirely justified in reacting to the accusations and attacks Aria made… I am glad Liz had the courage to expose Aria…In fact I support it.

I don’t generally mention one-on-one conversations I have online with others, but I was astounded to see Evangelina comment to the effect that she supported Elizabeth’s revealing what she said was personal information about Aria Blue.  Evangelina has certainly ruffled enough TGs online.  I wonder how she would feel if one of them came upon facts about her private life and then posted them on the internet.  Not too good, I think.  I thought it was chickenshit for Elizabeth to post that stuff when I first read it…and I think it was chickenshit of her to have posted it now.  Evangelina talking out of both sides of her mouth to me is merely incidental.

Evangelina went on to say this in her comment at Leigh’s post:

Since pulling my blog Aria has been the source of a number of rumours and lies about me and my integrity. I have been called a TG troll working against TS women causing disharmony and disrupting alliances. I don’t have words to describe how ridiculous that is especially given the facts of my life as well as the length of time I have been speaking out against transgender doctrines. These outrageous claims are totally untrue and there have been just three people who have offered any public support. Leigh. Anna Rose and Sybil.

Now, Elizabeth, in the comment she made that I deleted said this, about me:

Sure, you had no clue what happened on Aria’s blog! Selective reading habits? Please, you knew and supported Aria when she attacked me even if you never said a word simply by not saying anything.  You did the same when Aria attacked Evangelina mercilessly.

Aside from the fact that during the time span this happened I hadn’t even the faintest clue who Elizabeth even was (still don’t for that matter), the absolute inference of the quotes by Evangelina and Elizabeth is that it is somehow incumbent upon me to jump to the defense of those who I know hold a similar opinion as I do when they get into huge disagreements on the internet…and that if I do not jump in all fangs and claws exposed then I am somehow not only supporting their adversary but attacking them personally by me not saying anything one way or the other.  By that ignorant logic, in the Aria Blue-Evangelina/Elizabeth controversy both of them could assume I both support and attack each of them simultaneously and individually simply by me saying nothing.  That is mind boggling absurdity, nothing short of sheer lunacy…not to mention some elementary attempt to have me choose sides in a disagreement I know nothing about.

I’ve stated more than once that I don’t know what happened with that whole brouhaha, but for the sake of argument, let’s assume that I followed with bated breath every single word that was written.   NEWS RELEASE:  I still wouldn’t have given a damn and still wouldn’t have weighed in. From what little I know about what went down, the whole episode was an exercise for vindictive junior high school students, not me.  I don’t have time for stupid crap like that.  I could care less what Aria Blue or anyone else says about my legitimacy; I’m way too secure in myself to worry about what someone on the internet says about me.  I don’t need Evangelina or Leigh’s, or anyone else’s support over a spat.  Does anyone in their right mind actually think support in a heated internet disagreement over one’s legitimacy is going to make a damn bit of difference to anyone?  Excuse me, but I think anyone who does has seriously confused me with someone who actually gives a damn.

One thing I’ve just never understood is how so many people just can’t seem to get over their past, even after tens of years and GRS.  In her comment, Evangelina said this:

Liz, has been a close friend in these few weeks…One is I have encountered only three people in my life ever who shared the depth of my experiences as a child. Liz is one of them.

That’s so special.  The only question I would ask myself when I read something like that is why.  Why in the world would anyone want to share their painful pretransition past and keep score of those with whom they commiserate?  Anyway, though no one has a monopoly on the distress of what was before transition, I’m glad Evangelina has found a soul mate in Elizabeth and, together, they can share their deep childhood experiences.  I do hope no one is waiting for me to share my childhood with them or anticipates me having any interest whatsoever in theirs…I’ve been over that for years and am not inclined at all to be a sounding board for someone with decades long unresolved issues.

I have chatted with Evangelina for quite some time and liked her.  To my knowledge there has never been a cross word between us.  We seem to have agreed on most, if not almost everything,  thus, I’ve never tried to influence her on anything I can think of.  We don’t exchange e-mails on any regular basis, and only chatted maybe once or twice a month, seeming to miss each other more than we connect.  I enjoyed our chats and never had any reason to believe she was upset with me in any manner whatsoever…we chatted just a week or so ago and she never indicated anything was wrong to me.  I did, however, and as far as the internet goes, count her as a friend and was surprised when she closed her last comment here with THIS:

You have all been duped by Aria and complicit in the vilification of those early pioneers of transition and transsexuality and yet we have all benefited from their courage. Liz is one of those women, Yet Aria and yes all of you vilify those women who came to again to help. Well shame on you, shame on you all…Now I’m through with the lot of you.

You just have to laugh at the drama.  Here we go again.  Evangelina says I have been duped by Aria Blue…Aria Blue’s side claims that I have been duped by Evangelina.  Is anybody sane in this friggin world?  I haven’t been duped by anyone!  Nonetheless, as she posted her comment on my blog and didn’t except me in her comment, I will take her at her word.  I’m sorry she made the comment she made, it surprised more than a few of us.

Before I move on, I have to address something that Elizabeth said in the comment she made that I deleted.  Elizabeth says, speaking of me;

This from someone that posted on my blog that I had no right to interpret what she wrote.  Now that was a cognizant thought of immense logical proportions.

No, I didn’t say that, Elizabeth.  What I actually posted on Elizabeth’s blog was THIS, emphasis added:

If I need someone to interpret what I write and to read my mind all the while telling me what I really mean I can get Dysonnance to do that any time of the day or night.

And, I only said that after I clarified to Elizabeth exactly what I did mean in a three comment, in depth response to the issue on her blog…follow the link and read it for yourselves.  Either way, even if Elizabeth was the first woman ever to live and the origin of original sin I still wouldn’t like her nor believe anything she says.

Enough on those two…time to take a look at yet another drama queen.

Lisalee18wheeler, has commented HERE that she sees my blog as irrelevant and obsolete.  She has called me a puppet of mysterious others she won’t name.  She and others like her, she says, are creating a new paradigm and then added she “had no more to say here.”  She’s posted on her blog HERE that Enough Non-Sense is imploding.  She says she finds some sort of vindication in the fact that her words are coming true…whatever those words might be.  Well, lisalee18wheeler I can tell you this, you burned your bridges here.  I’m pretty liberal in what I allow people to say here and some times it’s a handful keeping the peace.  But, you nor anyone else get a free pass to run me and/or my blog down.  You have bad mouthed me here, on your blog, on PHB and no telling how many other places.  You have said you have no more to say here, yet you felt you had the right to weasel back in here and threaten to out someone, saying in the post of yours I deleted:

Oh Courtney, give it a rest.  I outed you once and I’ll do it again.

Well, sweetpea, you won’t out anyone on my blog, though I do hear that Notes from the T side is pretty lenient on that kind of thing.  As for Enough Non-Sense imploding, I suggest you just hide in the bushes and watch.

So, the drama queens continue with there crap.  The players shift and form their alliances, seemingly sealing them with blood.  New paradigms are being constructed to describe male and female…as if.  People are outed and people are threatened with being outed.  Deep seated issues are still unresolved for some and need deep contemplation.  One group goes after another with a vengeance not seen since The Battle of the Bulge.  People are being duped by both sides…yes, duped, I say.  Telepathy runs rampant.  And, everybody, it appears, has the answer…is the truth…and is the light.

I just don’t see it quite that way.

I’m just a old lady who likes to sail and entertains myself with this blog.  I know what is right for me.  I fight my own internet battles and don’t expect any support in that vein.  I write here what I feel like writing and what I believe…and have never been swayed one way or the other by anyone in that effort.  I may debate an issue vehemently, but the truth is if someone agrees with me fine…if they don’t that’s fine too.  I spend a fair amount of time here encouraging commenters to debate the issue, not attack the author.  I don’t write for comments; I don’t write for traffic…no one will ever see an advertisement on my blog.  I don’t link to other sites on a blogroll…never have, never will, even though some link to mine and even more are very fine blogs.  And, as long as one can show even half way polite manners and just a bare sliver of decorum I’m not going to ban them or keep them from expressing virtually any harebrained idea they might hold.  I’ve said before but I’ll repeat…I’m nonaligned with regard to those who hold similar positions as I hold.  No one – no one – is going to out anyone on my blog or reveal personal information about another here…and don’t expect me to be all warm and fuzzy to those who do it elsewhere and their supporters; it’s a nasty, tasteless, low class, despicably chickenshit tactic.  I value friendship immensely, but once slighted one has a better chance at instant vaporization than regaining my trust.  Sex and gender have been understood by societies forever; I don’t need a new paradigm to help me with that…good luck to those that do.  No one has to ever worry about knowing whether I like them or not…generally I tell them straight up if I don’t…I don’t need any help in that decision making process either, thank you, I’m quite capable of deciding whether I like someone or not all by myself.  And, I don’t bow East and pray to the latest phenomenon with a great narrative that appears on my computer screen  for I’ve simply seen too many appear, and then vanish…appear, and then vanish…and with regard to the internet, people should realize:

There’s no such thing as the real world
Just a lie you’ve got to rise above

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12 Comments

  1. For me the toils and conquests of your boat refit are more interesting than reading about people trying to slice through each other in the vapor world. I will admit though it can get quite entertaining to witness the amateurish attempts by some to deprecate others and exalt their own images. But then I always did think it funny when Donald Duck lost his cool and blathered on in indecipherable squawks and wheezes.

    • Deena, my boat is more interesting to me than tidying up loose ends and smoothing drama queens as well. Sometimes I feel it’s necessary to purge the debate, and since I don’t comment very often on my own essays, the best way for me to do that is in a post. The comments from everyone on Time to Move On, though predictable, were particularly painful to me so this piece is sort of an attempt to put some sort of order and perspective back into things.

      However, rest assured that the boat is my priority. It is exceptionally cold here on Galveston Bay this morning (23 was the low, 25 here at 10:00, and not expected to get to freezing before 1:00 or so this afternoon…and snow forecast for Thursday night and Friday) so I’ve been forced to move inside of my home to continue work…even my garage is below freezing. Last week I did meet my goal of finishing the interior woodwork…it ended with six coats of polyurethane, wet sanded between each application…looks great. The weather is supposed to warm up Saturday and Sunday though. Though we are heading to a Superbowl part Sunday, hopefully we can get at least some of the interior reassembled over the weekend. Stay tuned…photo will be forthcoming.

  2. It needed to be done, and you did it calmly and without drama.

    I’m lacking background, so I don’t understand most of the drama. I imagine that’s just as well, since I prefer drama only on stage or in movies, not in my life. I am a passionate woman, but I know how to be passionate about issues. Real issues, not issues between people.

    And even though my transition is fairly recent, and I’m no spring chicken (I don’t hide either fact), I feel very much past most of these issues. Maybe it’s because I was primed for this for my entire life and so shifted fairly quickly into a new normal. The only things trans in my life right now are blogs, and often I wonder if I should let those go as well (but I love to write, and I love to read good writing).

    I’m not a sailor, but someone I’ve been spending time with recently has a 30-foot sailboat. If we’re still seeing each other by summer, I’m hoping I’ll be able to spend time on his boat. It’s fortunate he can basically sail it by himself, because I’d have a lot to learn before I could be a first mate. :)

  3. Drama is indeed a part of life. However, I would differentiate between encountering drama as part of every-day life and being part and parcel to both it’s creation and dissemination.

    I don’t have much to say about the blow-up and all of the participating drama queens, as I seem to always arrive to these issues and fights about 36-48 hours after they begin to die down. This is a blessing. My perspective is as viewing a battlefield from a nearby hill and watching the dead being carted off and the wounded struggling back to their respective lines and thinking, “Really? Again?”

    Bottom line, I am sorry to see Leigh go.

    As to the John Mayer anecdote, a few years back I was traveling back to downtown DC via the Metro when I noticed that as we got closer to the Verizon center stop the train car was increasingly filled with a disproportionate number of females, both young and not-so-young. I asked what looked like a mother-daughter couple near me what was going on. They looked at me as if I was from some other planet and said “You don’t know that John Mayer is performing at the Verizon Center tonight?” “Well, No” I said (not adding that I didn’t KNOW who he was!) … they laughed and said, “Well, he is just about the Hottest guy around” … I laughed knowingly and said “Have Fun!” … later that night I “Googled” him and said to myself “Ah, now I get it!” … Lol …

    Ditto on the boat … hope things continue smoothly and that you get to the end very soon (is there ever an end to a boat though?) …

    Sara …

  4. I don’t have any real friends in the online world, that is by choice. I’ve learned you can’t trust someone you cannot see. When you look someone in the eye you know so much more about them than mire electrons can convey. I show up here and comment because I feel kinship with the regulars, that is more than just a narrative much more. If I were to ever meet someone from here I would treat them as if it was the first time I had met them because it would be.

    Except for here I have no online acquaintances, with the exception of an ex roommate and close friend of 25 years. Besides that I have zippo, Zilch, nadda…. Out in the real world where the sunshine is warm and the wind blows through your hair, now that is a different story. :)

    I have mine, my life, my corrected body and I can marry in every state in the union. I do feel sorry for those who are under the boot of the GLBT NAZIS who will have to wear a cast mark on their forehead because of a maladjusted element in society. That is the way Gays are they are bullies, they out people they are dirty in their tactics. They are dishonest when they claim all this is in the name of civil rights.
    It makes it really easy to hate them.

  5. I found LisaLee’s(18weeler’s), “challenge”, above, quite revealing. I suppose I should not be surprised to find someone who claims such “tranny” purity, jumping into bed with the Queen of the Royal TG Court.

    On the other hand, I find the suggestion of speaking with my Congressional Representatives to be a marvelous idea. I think that we should make it VERY clear to them that TG Mafia are NOT who we are.

    • Yeah, I saw the post, not so much revealing as sadly predictable. But, the challenge that was made is right on…

      NO…it’s not worth my time and effort at all.

      NO…I wouldn’t be caught dead with lisalee18wheeler or her TG friends.

      NO…I don’t aspire to be seen with other trans…ROFLMAO

      NO…I’m not up for any challenge lisalee18wheeler makes.

      I also don’t appreciate her using my maiden name, but lisalee18wheeler knows that; it’s as close to outing me as she can get…and, NO…don’t count on me having tattoos scribbled all over me, publishing pictures of other trans on my blog, or driving a diesel truck either.

      Here is the deal with lisalee18wheeler…she is a very rude internet troll, I don’t like her, don’t like her low life, low class attack tactics and from now on will not even so much as allow a ping back from her blog, much less allow lisalee18wheeler to post here again. One will not even so much as see me write the name lisalee18wheeler after I put the period on the end of this sentence.

      • I actually found the challenge fascinating. She doesn’t write or act like a troll in any way, and I’ve read quite a few. As far as outing goes, wasn’t it Darlie Brewster who used your full name last year or so? And no one called her a troll.

        Going to DC is a really good idea for several reasons, regardless of whether you participate with the TG contingent or not. Letters, emails, and phone calls are all good, but in person visits can leave a lasting impression and build relationships. I’d love to go this year but saving up for surgery is paramount.

        • That’s super, Silly ol’ You, that you find it so fascinating. Perhaps you can tag along to DC, as it’s such a really good idea. There’s nothing DC can give me that I don’t already have, though I do understand why some need a crutch and think it’s a good idea. As for Darlie Brewster, just about everybody in the blogosphere slammed Brewster for her Aria Blues effort, myself included. If you think a tactic such as the one Brewster used is cool then, by all means, I encourage you to use it, but I’ve got more class than to do that.

  6. “Going to DC is a really good idea for several reasons, regardless of whether you participate with the TG contingent or not. Letters, emails, and phone calls are all good, but in person visits can leave a lasting impression and build relationships. I’d love to go this year but saving up for surgery is paramount.”

    Lasting impression indeed.

    I think you miss the message.
    We have ours, our rights our lives, we can marry, I can marry in any state in the country and not be questioned if my hubby kicks the bucket before I do.

    You guys keep trying to bring your fight to us by hijacking and raping our identity it’s not going to work.

    There is a difference between a birth defect and a lifestyle.

  7. Actually I think a bunch of trannys bugging congressional aids and reps makes for great humor. Makes for great SNL, Conan and late night Leno laughs.

    • The inmates lobbying for legalized insanity. :D

      I could imagine the conversations that go on in congressional cafeterias and at bars after hours.

      They simply don’t get it.


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