IF…I had a penny for every time I was called a homophobe by the GLB and homosexual transgender I could afford a very nice vacation to Peru. Even though myself and others have consistently said that homosexuals should lobby and rally for whatever right it is that they don’t have yet feel they should, it appears that by standing up for our own heterosexual orientation we are somehow homophobes. Objecting to gay men speaking for us is somehow relegated to the demon category. Having issues with lesbian feminists speaking to the gender debate is shouted down. Our speaking up to this steamroller is silenced…by the gays, the lesbians, and the transgender.
Being called a homophobe is insulting. We are no more homophobic that the homosexuals are pedophiles.
IF…I had a nickel for every time I’ve been called a transphobe by the GLB and homosexual T I could afford a new Porsche. I believe (as with the GLB) that the transgender should also lobby for whatever right it is that they desire, yet do not have as well. Still, by saying that true transsexuals are different, I am automatically vilified. By speaking up to the transgender juggernaut I am shoved into the transphobe column for little more than refusing to acquiesce to their politics. Refusing to recognize a transvestite as a female is apparently not politically correct, even though it flies in the face of sheer common sense. Objecting to the characterization of a female-to-male – who not only decides not to have GRS but also become pregnant – as a female is somehow taboo.
Being called a transphobe is an insult. Women of operative history are no more transphobic than the homosexuals are perverts.
IF…I had a quarter for every time I’ve been called a hater I could afford both the vacation and the sports car. Apparently I am expected, as a woman of operative history, to have something in common with both the GLB and homosexual T…just because. Having nothing in common with the GLBT is de facto hate, at least as far as the GLBT are concerned when it comes to being a women of operative history. Simply proclaiming such is GLBT heresy. Having transitioned and had GRS, I have nothing but sympathy for the transvestites and transgender who are cat-called, laughed at, and ridiculed as men in dresses. But, I also know that not only could many of these transgender do much better presentation wise, they also have to realize that men and women are different and, as a near universal culture, society does not accept parody well when it comes to sex/gender. It’s the price one pays to stay in the game.
Being called a transphobe for stating the obvious is also insulting.
IF…I had a half dollar for all of the times the transgender themselves have relegated my own and other women of operative history’s sex/gender to that of a male, no matter what gender surgery we’ve had, I could ship the sports car to Peru and then tour South America. The same GLB and homosexual transgender who insist on othering themselves by prefixing their womanhood with the trans prefix have absolutely no issues with attempting to do the same thing with me and others. Trans activists have habitually made reference to post ops as having inverted penis’ and after market vaginas. The reference they make to women of operative history having XY chromosomes is legion, said as much out of spite as jealousy because we have had surgery, and they not only haven’t, but many don’t even desire such, seeing GRS as immaterial and being quite happy to stay anatomically male…refusing to acknowledge that this alone is what makes us different from them.
Being referred to as male by the transgender is demeaning and insulting. The GLBT has no problem whatsoever insulting women of operative history who object to their appropriation and colonization of our identities and political position.
IF…I had a dollar for every time I’ve been called a bigot by the GLB and homosexual transgender, I could upgrade the Porsche to a Lamborghini, opt for Europe and the Mediterranean instead of Peru and then take in Australia on the way home. It’s sad that the entire GLB and homosexual transgender feel so persecuted. Though the GLB seems to have no difficulty speaking for me, I can’t speak for them, but from experience I can tell the transgender that no one really gives a damn about their gender issues. If they can convincingly present as the gender of their choice and come across as legitimate, the world is their palette to paint with as they wish. If they can’t do that, nothing else they do is going to matter. People respond to people, they don’t respond to agendas…society will ignore legislation forcing them to accept something that is in conflict with their sensibilities. The transgender do the same. They do it with true transsexuals. It is not bigotry to accept or reject another, it is human nature. It’s how people interact with others. I’ve met true transsexuals I wouldn’t give the time of day to…the same with GLBT types…not to mention every day run-of-the-mill people at work, or that I’ve met socially. Me liking, accepting, or otherwise responding to other people has nothing to do with bigotry. It has everything to do with first impressions and personality. I suppose shouting bigot is easier to justify than the fact that some people are simply not liked by others.
IF…the GLBT would publicly acknowledge that the majority of women of operative history are not homosexual, myself and others would become their allies…rather than their adversaries.
IF…the transgender would publicly acknowledge that their umbrella does not include many women of operative history we would also be their allies…instead of their staunchest critics.
IF…the homosexual movement would cease speaking for females of operative history as if they have some special insight into us, we would disappear from their blogs…many of us would become active supporters.
IF…the transgender would immediately stop their persistent marginalizing and othering women of operative history by continuing to refer to us as transwomen and including us under their umbrella there would be no gender debate.
IF…the GLBT would condemn actions that stereotypically present all women of operative history as nothing more than homosexual men who have gone to the extreme of gender reassignment surgery there would be peace within the gender debate. Though some women of operative history are lesbian, the vast majority of us are not homosexual, nor are our partners homosexual.
IF…only
The GLBT ignore us. We are included in the GLBT against our will as the GLBT speak for us while at the same time silencing our narratives and refusing to acknowledge our position that we female…just female…only female; nothing more nor less and we have no propensity to support the homosexual agenda or to be lesbian than the average female next door does.
The GLBT commits the absolute same transgressions against women of operative history as they accuse the mainstream of doing to them.
Many in the mainstream call the GLBT pedophiles; the GLBT call women of operative history haters…for refusing to take shelter under the transgender umbrella.
Many in the mainstream refer to the GLBT as perverts; the GLBT refers to us as homophobes…for nothing more than objecting to their appropriation.
Many in the mainstream think homosexuals are sick and confused people; the GLBT accuse of us abandoning our own kind because we don’t have anything in common with transvestites, crossdressers, and gender queers and refuse political association with them.
Many in the mainstream ignore homosexual advocates when they ask for rights and a place in society; the GLBT silence and ignore the narratives and wishes of women of operative history all the while referring to us as transphobic when we object to their colonization of our identity.
The GLBT is prolonging the inevitable by refusing to recognize the position of women of operative history. What gains they may make on the national level are completely negated by the many, many states that have constitutional amendments prohibiting same-sex marriage…the GLBT Holy Grail.
There will be no peace with the GLBT until they recognize that not everyone supports the GLBT and acknowledge that even fewer of us support the transgender.
Are you tired of the transgender and GLBT appropriating the identity of true/classic transsexuality. If you are, drop us a note and we will tell you how you can join our movement. Your e-mail address will be guarded as strictly confidential. Help us break free of the transgender. Pass the e-mail address on to others who feel as you do. Please join us…
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I’ve heard it all as well. “your vagina is nothing more than an inverted penis”, “you have male DNA”, “you have no ovaries or uterus”, “you can’t menstruate or conceive children”. The list is endless if you ask me, but the most hypocritical part about these transgender activists who demean & invalidate women of operative history (particularly heterosexual women of operative history)is that they claim to be “supportive”. Most of these transgender activists have “support sites” all over the net, and yes most of them are moderators or administrators of such “support” forums. It’s absolutely appalling!
It took me a while to realize how much they hated me for being post-operative, for being heterosexual & for not being “out and proud”
I’m tired and very sick of their condescending attitude and BS. I’m here to join the fight if you will. I still don’t know how, but I am confident that I will learn. Thank you for this website.
WElcome to the fray Solange. Just join in the comments sections on TG blogs and speak your truth. Eventually they may get the message through their thick stupid sculls that we are different and that we are indeed women.
Do please kindly keep your shallow bigotry off my blog. A penis is a fucking bodypart, get the fuck over it, it does not make anyone more or less a woman than a vagina does. Identity is in the brain. I happen to have a penis I’m medically unable to be rid of, as surgery would kill me. By your narrow definition I’m a man, despite my having a uterus and living full time. And yet you want to bitch and whine and moan here about how offended you are when someone calls you a bigot? SUCK IT UP PRINCESS. When you ACT like a bigot, tough shit, you’re GOING to get called one.
Please keep your “I’m better than you bvut I’m not a hater” garbage away from my blog, and grow the fuck up.
Funny thing is the real world disagrees with you Purrrple Penny.
Unless you plan on living in a vacuum you have to play in society by society’s rules.
Women have vaginas
Men have penises
“A penis is a fucking bodypart, get the fuck over it, it does not make anyone more or less a woman than a vagina does. Identity is in the brain.”
Yep, Purrple Penny, if you have a penis, you’re male as male can be. If you have a uterus and a penis you’re intersex. Either way, you living full time as a female no more makes you a female than the crossdressers you knock on your blog.
Let’s see now. Last I checked crossdressers were included under your precious transgender umbrella. You’re right, they aren’t female, but neither are genderqueers, who also reside under your precious transgender umbrella. They are transgender, and you are transgender. The fact is that it is you who can’t get over the fact that a non op – particularly one hiding behind the “it will kill” me excuse – is really nothing more than a crossdresser.
Considering I first transitioned before you were born and am post op, I’d say I’ve definitely grown up…and being called a bigot by some slug like you is like water off a duck’s back to me. You’re probably a “lesbian” too. But, I think others should read your blog post I commented on, and that you deleted. They can find your blog post HERE. Seems you are the bigot. Seems like you are the one who feels they are better than a crossdresser. After all, you devote a whole blog post to how inferior you see crossdressers when compared to yourself.
By the way, my comment on your blog - the one you deleted because you can’t stand the truth – was respectful. And, though I left your comment up, your comment here was not respectful at all. I don’t normally come unglued on people that comment here, but since you set the tone with your bull-in-a-china-shop-very-male-and-profane comment above and so that there is no mistake…if you want to bring your ugly fat non op ass back here again, make your comment respectfully. Don’t come back if you can’t be civil.
*LOL*
*Pwned*. With claws and puffed tail even.
Never seen this blog before.
i’m getting so tired of religious crap. Even more than usual.
Actually, she does define as an Intersex.
From her article: “Being an intersexed woman who loathes the words hermaphrodite and shemale”
I read the article, and to an extent I agree with her. However, I don’t agree that ONLY crossdressers are the core of the problem. I think that the Non-op’s of which there are SOME that are non-op for legitimate medical reasons, are also part of the problem. The reasoning behind that is that it’s easy for a crossdresser to simply ‘upgrade’ to a non-op transsexual. There is no downside to it and its the cheapest upgrade available online, which is where many of the fruits and nuts were born in the first place.
We are forced to draw a line in the sand. For Penny it is the crossdressing transvestic man, for us it is surgical intent. We say that for someone to take the surgical path, that is evidence of intent and seriousness. That may not fit well with the transgenders and some non-op declared individuals, but that is our line, our definition. That does not make us any more bigoted than penny is, it merely sets the bar a little higher.
Personally, and for what its worth, I have to agree with penny. I was actually contemplating writing a similar article in a similar way because I do very much believe that the crossdressers ARE the bad side of the transgender construct. How many times do we come across it with BattyBatBats, that genderqueer, goth dickwaving, glbt crossdresser from down under? I am so sick of arguing with HIM that it drives me insane and I will never ever refer to him as her, and it drives him mad.
There are a lot of true transsexuals defining as transgender. Some have already come away from that definition and started to realize that it is so polluted with fakers and wannabees, that they have started posting here of their “transitions” from being transgender, to being women. Its a good thing and I think thats where we all of us need to focus our attention, talking to those that will listen, yet realizing that the fakers and wannabee’s never can or will listen because they cannot go where we are. Fantasy for a crossdresser will whither and die should they ever get SRS, in the same way the rising sun will kill a vampire.
Anyway, thats my FWIW..
Actually I think the [homosexuals] posing as transsexuals are the real problem.
Crossdressers are for the most part harmless. It’s the Monica Helms and Angela Brightfethers, the [homosexuals] posing as “women” who are the real problem.
well, what their sexual orientation is I have no idea and you are possibly right. Crossdressers are harmless but not when they appropriate terms that do not apply to them, and many MANY do.
Keep in mind Leigh I am referring to self acknowledged CDs
By the way I have sent two emails to those addresses now and have seen no reply WHAT is up???
You guys could at least send a message to the effect “we are not interested in your help”
It is my understanding that Mr. Lowman (aka virginia prince) started using the term transgender because he felt that being called a cross-dresser was a nasty name. Then after awhile The tee gees decided to upgrade themselves by including everything under transgender.
Now it seems that the tee gees want to claim being intersex as well & they are getting help with that from their male gay friends.
In my own opinion, transgender-cross-dresser & non -ops are all the same. Just men wanting more special priviledge & what they are calling human rights .
I think that somewhere in there falls people like purrple penny ( a Shaman).
Like some one once said: “go suck eggs”
is my responce
I find it rather amusing that some people notably purple penny in this instance, in one breath advocate free speech and in the next excersise what can only be described as an attempt to limit free speech. i.e. “keep your comments of my blog” and also descibing an expressed opinion as “bigotry”
Quite apart from the fact that the foul language indicates a poor education and ability to express viewpoints with accuracy it also shows a lack of curtesy. Did anyone here visit and post an opinion on purple penny’s blog? I know I didn’t. I took a deep breath and went to look at the site and I will not be repeating the experience.
I am tired of people attempting to make me feel guilty because I have a professional career, a husband and a home. All of which I worked damned hard to get and continue to work hard to keep. Many if not all of us here do the same.
Leigh, good points, I agree.
Cassandraspeaks…yes, I posted over there. It was short, respectful, taking issue with the concept of “non op”. Since then, which was early this morning, purrple penny has deleted the comment…she then came here raising living hell.
some people clearly have an issue with reality don’t they.
anoldfriend .. dunno.
I am not a member either.
Told them the old line of wouldn’t be a member of any club that would have me as a member.
I do not believe that transsexualism per se belongs in the LGBT rubric.
I do not believe in non op transsexuals.
I do find that some, and not a few, women of operative history(a term that I have used to define myself to a lesbian friend for some yeas) are gay or lesbian