Being Intersex myself, I was offended by the hateful speech towards me when I told them they should see a doctor to make sure. Especially due to the health issues I have.

As for scientific. Their website references itself as proof. With some research, it was found the creator of the web site is not out and works with the Catholic Church. Sometimes known to put out mis-information to divide a community.

You are NOT the only “expert” out there and we are now all quite aware of your sociology background…..guess what? Me too. Majored in sociology with minors in psychology and anthropology myself and have counted some of the best minds in the world in the fields of psychology and psychiatry as close personal friends for many many years so, at least with me, give it a rest.ok?

The terms ARE mutually exclusive. FWIW my definition of transsexual was once the top search engine result for the term for several years so I guess I’m an “expert” too.

I am aware of the one whose intent it is to stir the pot just for the sake of stirring the pot. I have no problem with someone, anyone, offering an opinion here, even if I completely and totally disagree with it…certainly you are welcome to continue posting. But I just have no patience whatsoever with someone who comes here with no other intention than to blatantly insult someone and cause discourse. I am not referring to you, but to the person of whom you are referring to a couple of posts above.

Twice that person has posted here, and twice I have completely deleted their post. The second time I deleted their post I indicated to the person that they were not welcome here…if you look around a bit, you can find the post. One of the posts, by the way, was a slam on you. Though I am in agreement with you on almost nothing you have said, to mention it again, anyone who wants to come here just to upset the applecart and insult you, me, Leigh or any other person for absolutely no reason other than to spread venom is not going to make it.

the reason “my group” (I have a group?) doesnt get that is becuase its incorrect.

We are not making the body match our gender, we are making the body match our “gender identity”, which is a separate concept from “gender”.

“Gender Identity” — as pretty much any current encyclopedia will inform you — is an individual’s own innate sense of their sex.

Gender is the social manifestation of roles defined as masculinity and femininity.

Those are not *my* definitions, those are the medical and scientific communities definitions (as a Dr of sociology, I can came some authority in that field).

SO they are not mutually exclusive.

By my own lights, I am transgender, transsexual, woman, and female. All at once, no one greater than the other.

We’ve been there, both of know that neither of will ever agree on much else

Actually, Prince (and I am so sad you disrespected the homophobic twit) came up with transgenderist (not transgender, that was someone else) as a way of expressing cross dressers who live full time but recognized they were still male.

I do not, obviously.

Scientifically, it is specific — and was so assigned by Harry Benjamin (and you have got to remember the 6 point scale, don’t you?)

I will check out your blog, too — thank you

Hey, the hbs call me a transgender, the transgender call me hbs .. and my old man calls me a fool for getting into all this crap in the first place … LOL

So what else is new……..

just thought I’d let you know you are being called “HBS people” by a twit whose doing searches on me.

I know you sorta resent that, so thought I’d ask you to clarify that in a manner I can quote, if you don’t mind (that you are not HBS people in the mold you just got done castigating).

More in a second that is on topic.

Transvestite is not fetish specific in it’s definition and means exactly the same thing as crossdresser. The additional meanings were layered by those “trans-genders” trying to escape any connection with sexuality….see the ultra-antitranssexual Charles Prince. You might want to check out my last entry on radicalbitch.wordpress.com it explains some of this.